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Old Dec 01, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03   #201
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Just thought I'd post this. I decided to see if killed foes one by one got more drops, so I went out with my usual build, but only used VwK for damage, it took ages to kill them but after killing them all (24) I got 13 drops, suing Ancestors Rage as well I was getting 1 - 5 drops a run. But it really did take ages with just VwK so its not really viable, just thought I'd say that you get about 2-3x the amount of drops if you kill them one at a time. Then again maybe I was just lucky that run, maybe its just me.

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Old Dec 01, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48   #202
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Just thought I'd post this. I decided to see if killed foes one by one got more drops, so I went out with my usual build, but only used VwK for damage, it took ages to kill them but after killing them all (24) I got 13 drops, suing Ancestors Rage as well I was getting 1 - 5 drops a run. But it really did take ages with just VwK so its not really viable, just thought I'd say that you get about 2-3x the amount of drops if you kill them one at a time. Then again maybe I was just lucky that run, maybe its just me.

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This has been known for months.. Thing is, you dont get extra goldies or other items affected by lootscaling. Just the whites, so it isnt really worth your time.
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Old Dec 01, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32   #203
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I now its been known, just thought it would be better than the 1-2 whites a run I've been getting on this run recently.

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Old Dec 01, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #204
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This has been known for months.. Thing is, you dont get extra goldies or other items affected by lootscaling. Just the whites, so it isnt really worth your time.
i don't know i got a lockpick and a gold when killing them slow (sux doing it that way though) and usually just grapes doing it normally. I think you do lose some drops of all types with the AOE drop robbery code.
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Old Dec 01, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47   #205
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this is a decent run, made some money today. I'll have to scratch my head a bit to see if there's a way to deal with the boss, it seems a shame to miss that whole group.
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 05:40 AM // 05:40   #206
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i don't know i got a lockpick and a gold when killing them slow (sux doing it that way though) and usually just grapes doing it normally. I think you do lose some drops of all types with the AOE drop robbery code.
I sometimes get 5 golds from killing them fast, I sometimes get 1 saurean bone for killing them fast. It's just luck.
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 08:00 AM // 08:00   #207
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you mean that boss.

As far as the bug you guys are talking about, Ive said it before it DOES NOT exist like you guys think it does.

What happens is since LS is here it just snags on the first part of the loot table the selection of who gets it. Instead of distrubituting it evenly it insteads counts who ever gets the loot multiple times not really reducing the drops. but since you are in high party areas your chance to recieve the drop is already really low.

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Old Dec 02, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36   #208
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1 gold & 1 purple in 13 runs

just bad luck or anyone else affected?
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58   #209
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I got 1 purple and no golds in about the same amount of runs.
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #210
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you say an average run takes 1 min ? sorry but thats complete BS of the highest order >< E/A is alot faster and that still takes >1min to complete .
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #211
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you say an average run takes 1 min ? sorry but thats complete BS of the highest order >< E/A is alot faster and that still takes >1min to complete .
View the picture, then think for a while about how much of an ass you have made yourself look, especially by saying "complete BS of the highest order", I'm fairly sure that title is reserved for Steorn.
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Old Dec 02, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46   #212
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View the picture, then think for a while about how much of an ass you have made yourself look, especially by saying "complete BS of the highest order", I'm fairly sure that title is reserved for Steorn.
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lol just to show more support,



1 min runs. easy as pie.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #213
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^.....Sorry, but your pic doesnt prove you completed the run in 1 minute. I call BS on 1 minute to complete with warrior. Sorry.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54   #214
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got my ele. sword yesterday req.11 after a week farming .... and loots of the other golds too .. ( loots of perfects mods , 30 hp sword axe and shield )

After of a little of "overfarm2 the area i get 1/2 golds in every 4 runs .
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #215
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^.....Sorry, but your pic doesnt prove you completed the run in 1 minute. I call BS on 1 minute to complete with warrior. Sorry.
how does that not prove it?he posts the kills,the time and he is the only one in the map... . Go test it yourself.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46   #216
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^.....Sorry, but your pic doesnt prove you completed the run in 1 minute. I call BS on 1 minute to complete with warrior. Sorry.
lol how does that not prove it? must i record a video? i don't want to waste anymore time then i have to.

accept the truth. you were wrong. If was an act of ignorance. but now you have been enlightened. no biggie.

edit - went thru my stash of screenshot just for you wsmcasey.

further pwnage.


check out the /age, this run was right after the previous run. 2 min later.


me in action.

i feel like an missionary. now do you believe?

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Old Dec 03, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49   #217
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how does that not prove it?he posts the kills,the time and he is the only one in the map... . Go test it yourself.
There are multiple groups in the cave. If you mass aggro them, they will run away when they take to much aoe damage if you dont kill them fast enough. That skill bar isnt dealing enough damage to kill them fast enough to avoid the scatter. I maybe wrong, an I'm big enough to admit when I am. I'll build that specific skill bar tonight and test the time it takes.

I'm not specifically saying he didnt do it in 1 minute, im just saying that just because he posts a pic showing a group of nestlings dead and it says you've been in the map for 1 minute doesnt prove he killed ALL the groups of nestlings within 1 minute. It only proves he killed maybe 1 small group.

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Old Dec 03, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54   #218
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If you took a little more time to look at the screen shot, you will see that he has killed 24 foes, which is exactly the number of raptors you can kill in that cave excluding the boss and his group.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 03:56 PM // 15:56   #219
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There are multiple groups in the cave. If you mass aggro them, they will run away when they take to much aoe damage if you dont kill them fast enough. That skill bar isnt dealing enough damage to kill them fast enough to avoid the scatter. I maybe wrong, an I'm big enough to admit when I am. I'll build that specific skill bar tonight and test the time it takes.

I'm not specifically saying he didnt do it in 1 minute, im just saying that just because he posts a pic showing a group of nestlings dead and it says you've been in the map for 1 minute doesnt prove he killed ALL the groups of nestlings within 1 minute. It only proves he killed maybe 1 small group.
it is a know fact that warriors cannot take the boss group.
look at the kill count under the hardmode icon. one says 24 and one says 20.
those are not small groups. With the right body blocking and switching which target i swing my axe at, they WILL attack back, making them take damage.

Raptors = assassins = double strike at gladiators defense = gg.

edit for my bad spelling
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57   #220
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It says in the top left how many enemies have been killed.

If you read the OP it says you don't take on the boss' group, the enemies do not scatter when grouped so there is a wall on their left.
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